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Old 15-05-09, 09:37 PM
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Would anyone know the production numbers of the Bristol V8 models in Left Hand Drive guise?

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David
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Old 15-05-09, 11:08 PM
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There is no special designation for LHD. The cars are assigned a sequential number, generally with the model in the first two digits and the next car in the last two digits... sort of, there are a few anomalies.
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Hello,
Would anyone know the production numbers of the Bristol V8 models in Left Hand Drive guise?

Thank you.
David
Only the company would know for sure and they have always been secretive about V8 production figures.

Maybe the North American Bristol Owners Club would know?
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Hello,
Would anyone know the production numbers of the Bristol V8 models in Left Hand Drive guise?

Thank you.
David
Only the company would know for sure and they have always been secretive about V8 production figures.

Maybe the North American Bristol Owners Club would know (more)?
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Only the company would know for sure and they have always been secretive about V8 production figures.

Maybe the North American Bristol Owners Club would know (more)?
Sorry, I may have misunderstood the question. Answering it as Kevin addresses it, for each model I was able to find about 2 or three LHD cars. Of course this would not include any sold in Europe. If you examine the BOC registry you will find most of the V8s of the "4" series (407-412) to be documented, and their designation of drive side is generally accurate.
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Old 16-05-09, 01:08 PM
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As many people have mentioned, only the factory knows the real production figures. However, from a quick scan of the Registry I have found the following LHD cars: 407 - 1, 408 - 2, 409 - 3, 410 - 3, 411 - 1, 412 - 1, Beauf -1, 603 - 1, Blen - 1. Not all of the locations of these cars are known. Two additional 410's are listed with unknown location in th US and without the LHD/RHD designation. These may well be LHD's. I was quite surprised that, overall, the list is so limited and I also suspect there are more 411's out there in LHD form in Europe or the Middle-East. There were also rumors of some 412's being sent to the Middle East, but this has never been confirmed

Hope this helps,

Peter McGough
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Thank you all! So very few. I'll guess I have to settle for a RHD then, unless I get lucky.
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Thank you all! So very few. I'll guess I have to settle for a RHD then, unless I get lucky.
Bristol will convert RHD to LHD, at least they have done in the past. They did this one around 2000/2001. It was in Germany last I heard but that was a few years ago now.
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Thank you all! So very few. I'll guess I have to settle for a RHD then, unless I get lucky.
If you join the BOC, I believe you are still provided with an owners list. As the registrar in North America at the time (before I moved overseas), I called everyone on the list, and as part of the valuation part, I asked the question "did you buy the car recently and if so how much? Or is the car for sale now, and if so, how much?" This proved a dangerous question as a few people answered the latter with remarkably low prices.

For example, I was down in Virginia on business, and as usual had rung the Bristol owners to stop by a take photographs for Bob Charlton, the then global BOC registrar. One 409 in particular was in lovely shape and I did my usual data collection of inserting a large-font printout with the Chassis ID No in the windscreen and then taking a few photographs to post off to Bob. I was heading home, about 20 miles north on the freeway when the penny dropped, and I used my car phone to ring the owner to make sure I had not recorded the wrong figure as it was about 1/3rd of what the market was asking in those days. No, he knew what it was worth, but would be delighted to sell it at that price, provided he did not need to advertise. He was wealthy, had gotten good use out of the car, but had no interest in showing the car to prospective buyers. I turned around, wrote him a cheque and said I would fly down a month later to collect the car, asking him have his mechanic assure it would make it back to New England. We kept that car (nicknamed "The Dutchess") a long time, and only sold it in New Zealand because we live on an island and taking road trips was, in those days, more complicated as the first stage was a salt-water wet $160 ferry ride. It was not being used enough to merit owning it any more, especially given the other four classic cars in the garage.

At one point, just before I was to move to RHD New Zealand, I found that the following LHD cars were on the market in the USA: 401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409... and I already owned a LHD 410 and 405, meaning that for under $100,000 I could own almost the complete LHD collection. Instead I sold my two LHD cars and am now down to one RHD 411 that I can't get through NZ regulations without an awful lot of wasted money.

So, if you really want a LHD Bristol, pick up the BOC directory and do some telephoning. It is not unlikely your future car is parked in a garage somewhere and if you don't sound too desperate, the vendor may be delighted to move it on. I would begin by tracking down the 410 in Tulsa OK. Jerry Johnson's Rolling Art is listed on the internet, and he may still have the car for sale. If he does, get a quote on buying it fully restored by his company, as I gather he is in the business.

Alternatively, if you have the funds and want to try something very creative, see if the 405 LHD Monnereau car is still for sale in Paris, and ask Toby Silverton for a quote to refurbish it and install a V8 power-train.

Good luck,
Claude
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Thank you all for suggestions. Amazing support! Even down to specific cars!!

David
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Default This is the only LHD 411 then?

I've watched this car decay for years at Tupper and 19th in Vancouver.
It seems the owner is determined to drive it this way and resists all buyers.
Just thought I'd share..........
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