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browning l 03-01-11 02:17 AM

Re: Closed "Water Ingress", and new leather...
 
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A further suggestion to think about -

When my 603 was refurbished by Bristol, all the interior leather was the same colo(u)r, with contrasting piping. I had overlooked my original intent to have darker, contrasting, but complementary leather on the sun visors and armrests, to match the dark leather on the facia. The factory weren't certain the leather would work here, as opposed to vinyl, but it did, very well.
That has now been remedied, with all four visors and the three armrests now covered in the same leather as the facia. The factory supplied the leather, covering the sun visors in the UK, but the armrests were done here at home.
Despite what seems to be different shades of interior leather on the seats, they are the same. That is simply a quirk of the lighting when the photos were taken.
I believe my request for additional sunvisors for the front side windows may have been a first for Bristol...they come in very handy on twisting roads as the sun comes in from the side and the front as one drives.

Nick Challacombe 03-01-11 01:19 PM

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Wow, that is a very superior interior. The contrast works very well.
Almost too posh for a Bristol!

caspian pugh 03-01-11 01:29 PM

Choc Ice Chic
 
Lou,

I like that! Vedry striking, but what is the headlining material now that looks really good.

Cass

GREG 03-01-11 01:49 PM

Superb ! now get those vacuum cleaner on those carpets :-)

browning l 03-01-11 02:28 PM

Thank you, all, for your nice words.

The headliner material is a sort of a suede, or suede-finished, fabric the factory chose and installed in the restoration. I didn't ask for anything special, so assume it is their standard lining.

When winter is over, and salt no longer being put down, the carpets will suit you!

Nick Challacombe 03-01-11 04:10 PM

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Ah! thought I recognised it, comes from Matilan via Tata by the roll!

GREG 03-01-11 04:29 PM

Slow down Nasty Nick - I have just had the same suede headlining added to my beautiful 411 S1 in fag ash grey. Very classy and I may consider the side sun visors if we ever get some again in Yorkshire :-)

GREG 03-01-11 04:32 PM

Sorry Cass, I meant cigarette ash grey. I forgot that the word fag can be offensive to people in Lancashire !

Nick Challacombe 03-01-11 05:55 PM

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Now Greg, we both know we had fags at school, and grey was not the colour.
Just bright pink as the slipper came down!
What do you need sunshades up there for, I though Mafia glasses were in
Vogue!.

GREG 03-01-11 06:20 PM

Strange language English and that about exhausts the meanings for fag.

I believe the word "set" has the most meanings although I like the word "one" , when Charles says to Camilla " Would one like one to give one one " :-) Now that's a posh chat up line !

Cas

caspian pugh 03-01-11 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GREG (Post 4165)
Sorry Cass, I meant cigarette ash grey. I forgot that the word fag can be offensive to people in Lancashire !

And quite so Greg! Just think how that quip would have gone down at Gay Pride. Ooooh, you little naughty.

Kisses from Cass

David Olivant 03-01-11 07:29 PM

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I had my 408 lined in the same or similar material.
Its called Alcantara. I've been told it's very resistant to heel marks, but
why any-one would want to walk on it is beyond me!
Happy New Year,
David

Rubbond 03-01-11 08:40 PM

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Ah, I believe we have that stuff on parts of the door panels of our
Discovery. Is it in fact suede (animal skin) or a synthetic material?

browning l 03-01-11 08:44 PM

Mine is a fabric...

lansdownplace 03-01-11 09:18 PM

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It is from an animal, I believe it is more expensive than the leather used in the cars.

I think BCL use a heavy grade as the nap is quite pronounced and feels more robust that the lightweight alcantara you get in some sports cars.

I could very well be wrong though

I saw lou's car and good as it looks in pictures it is stunning in real life. The exterior colour is about perfect for that model

Paul

GREG 03-01-11 09:33 PM

Burgundy over Black for the connoisseur of the 603 S2 upgrade surely !

browning l 03-01-11 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lansdownplace (Post 4172)
It is from an animal, I believe it is more expensive than the leather used in the cars.

I think BCL use a heavy grade as the nap is quite pronounced and feels more robust that the lightweight alcantara you get in some sports cars.

I could very well be wrong though

I saw lou's car and good as it looks in pictures it is stunning in real life. The exterior colour is about perfect for that model

Paul

Thanks, Paul.

In an early email, Toby described the headliner as "A new interior cloth headliner."

That paint color originated in Germany...maybe on Mercedes. I knew it first though, as a RR/Bentley color, in fact had an '03 Bentley on which we specified this color. I was in Toby's office in late March, '08, setting the refurb specs when he asked me about paint color...I quickly replied, "BRG," then said, "Wait a sec, let me call Mrs. B." She suggested we reuse the red we'd had on the Bentley, which scored for me. RR/B called it "Sunset". They also offered Sunrise, a much lighter color, and they were complementary. A two-tone in the two of them would have been gorgeous.

Anyway Toby found the color code - 95.60.014. After the car was painted, he liked it so well that he decided to offer it as a Bristol color option, but Bristol's name for it is Kentucky Red.

I'm not sure I was quite clear on the leather usage on the facia...the normal practice in '08, if I understood and recall correctly, was to use vinyl. When I asked if I could have the same color in leather, their seemed to be some question if they could manipulate the leather properly. As it turned, they did it perfectly.

lansdownplace 03-01-11 09:55 PM

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Hi Lou,

I had the leather on the dash of my car having seen yours. Apparently the current leathers are treated so they don't shrink in sunlight which is why they used to use leatherette before this innovation. Although it isn't a cheap option it does finish the interior. If only I could conceal the door trim!

Paul

GREG 03-01-11 10:03 PM

Paul,

I have just taken a look at the door trim. What do you mean, it looks like 412 door trim ?

lansdownplace 03-01-11 10:16 PM

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Hi Greg, it is the same on all cars. I would like a solution that concealed them completely, as you get with a RR/B for example

Paul

GREG 03-01-11 10:21 PM

Why didn't you ask them ? The window switches could have gone where the cig lighters are and push button solenoids for the door openers !

I like them as they are but prefer the chrome door openers from the MG store.

lansdownplace 03-01-11 10:35 PM

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Hi Greg, I think we are at cross purposes here. O am perfectly happy with the door handles/pulls an the placement of the switches and ashtray is perfect. It is the rubber door trims that go around the door and window apertures I would like to make less of a feature

Paul

Nick Challacombe 03-01-11 10:35 PM

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Greg,
.
Having seen that car once, it should not be allowed out in daylight.
Is that the one you thought wire wheels would look good on?
.
It could not make it any worse!

GREG 03-01-11 10:40 PM

Ah , thought it was a strange request ! No suggestions for that.

Rubbond 03-01-11 10:55 PM

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'Fraid I had to resort to Wikipedia once again....
Man-made fabric 68% polyester/32% urethane made by Alcantara SpA in Nera
Montoro, Italy.
Looks very tacky in a Ford Mondeo, but who wouldn't?

lansdownplace 03-01-11 11:05 PM

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Looks aside, is there any reason why wire wheels aren't suitable from a technical perspective? I can't recall having ever seen them on a Bristol

Paul

lansdownplace 03-01-11 11:05 PM

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I stand corrected. One less thing to feel guilty about I suppose.

Is West of England cloth hard to get a hold of?

Paul

GREG 03-01-11 11:20 PM

The only thing I can think of is whether wire wheels could cope with high torque but the wire wheels I posted on the other thread are designed to cope with XJS Jag grunt ! Will you try them for me please :-)

GREG 03-01-11 11:23 PM

The only Bristol I have seen with wire wheels is a 401. I was looking at a Alvis 21 with wire wheels and thought it looked superb.

lansdownplace 03-01-11 11:38 PM

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If the Astons and Ferraris could cope with them I am sure they must be up to the task, they might be a bit flash for anything post 411 though.

I have seen a Morgan with ultra low profile tyres on wire wheels and it looked fantastic.

A job for someone with Photoshop perhaps?

Paul

GREG 03-01-11 11:44 PM

For the wire wheels I was thinking 408 to 411 S1 and maybe 405

GREG 03-01-11 11:55 PM

Quote -

Greg,
.
Having seen that car once, it should not be allowed out in daylight.
Is that the one you thought wire wheels would look good on?
.
It could not make it any worse! Quote:

Nic, from a man that has the dress sense that makes Baldrick look like James Bond, I know my instincts are intact when it comes to style if you don't approve !

And I was thinking the 411 S1 for the wire wheels.

Greg Bond

lansdownplace 04-01-11 12:03 AM

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Sounds about right

peterf 04-01-11 01:04 AM

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Hi All,

Attached is a photo of a "Wired 405" the wheels are Borani.

Cheers

Peter

jimfoz 19-01-11 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubbond (Post 4170)
Ah, I believe we have that stuff on parts of the door panels of our
Discovery. Is it in fact suede (animal skin) or a synthetic material?

On the vast majority of cars that have this fitted it is Alcantara and is synthetic suede-effect material although I am not sure on the high spec Land Rovers which have similar trim to the high spec Jaguars. It does feel and look luxurious in car interiors whether it is man-made or not, but DFS seem to like using it on their cheap-looking sofas these days which spoils the exclusivity!

I had an Audi that had it covering the seats and it started bobbling after 50k miles so it is not hard wearing enough for sitting on. Mercedes used to offer a similar material called Amaretta for the w126 S-Class seats but it is rare to find a car with this as it was as expensive as the leather/velour option.


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