Toby Silverton interview in Octane

[Kevin H]

There's an interview with Toby Silverton in the Feb 2010 issue of Octane (issue #80).

[browning l]

Why not scan and print for those who don't see OCTANE?

[Kevin H]

Originally Posted by browning l

Why not scan and print for those who don't see OCTANE?

Because I don't own the copyright. If it was an old issue which was no longer available I would consider scanning it, but this is the current issue of Octane which can be bought in the shops for about $10.

[browning l]

Originally Posted by Kevin Howard

Because I don't own the copyright. If it was an old issue which was no longer available I would consider scanning it, but this is the current issue of Octane which can be bought in the shops for about $10.

Copyright has nothing to do with it, at least in the USA, Kevin, because you wouldn't be scanning it for financial gain or commercial use.

Are you telling me you have never copied a newspaper or magazine clipping for a friend? Ever? I sincerely hope you are not.

And, to gainsay your argument -"If it was an old issue which was no longer available I would consider scanning it," being "unavailable" does not, per se, negate a copyright. Copyrights continue on many out-of-print publications.

FYI, Octane is not readily available on US newstands, especially outside of such markets as New York, or Los Angeles.

[browning l]

Nemme mind, Kev, me mate, a friend in Old Blighty has obliged me.

Ta!

[Kevin H]

Originally Posted by browning l

And, to gainsay your argument -"If it was an old issue which was no longer available I would consider scanning it," being "unavailable" does not, per se, negate a copyright.

I never said it does (negate copyright), I'm just saying what I would and would not consider doing.

[lansdownplace]

This is possibly the first (and perhaps only) time I will leap to Kevin's defence but he is right in this instance. These magazines rely on cover sales and do allow for world wide distribution and if we scanned articles at will on forums then it would cannibalise their sales here in the UK as well as overseas to Octanes detriment, hence the existence of copyright.

In due course Octane will publish the interview online for free access, at a point where they don't expect any further revenue from that article.

The argument is wait, or pay.

[browning l]

Originally Posted by Kevin Howard

I never said it does (negate copyright), I'm just saying what I would and would not consider doing.

You led off your response by citing "copyright." That absolutely shows that, in your mind, "copyright" was a very important. At least for a new publication.

And, then, in so many words, you stated that, under certain conditions, i.e. lack of availability due to being out-of-print, you might consider copying, which could still violate "copyright."

There is nothing bad about declining to copy, but let us be consistent in our thinking.

So far as newsstand sales are concerned, where there is no chance to buy from the newsstand, there can be no loss of newsstand sales. People are not likely to go to some large city, hundreds of miles away, to look for a copy.

Indeed, it is arguable that, by someone scanning and making the article available to persons who have no reasonable chance to buy a newsstand issue, someone might decide to subscribe, which would be a plus for the publication.

I am very grateful to my benefactor for sending me a scanned copy. I enjoyed it very much (since, on the occasions when I was with Toby Silverton, I hadn't realized that he always wore mis-matched socks; how could I have continued our friendship without knowing that?), and I can't imagine, that, under the circumstances, the publisher would be annoyed by my having received it.

[kevin.pippard]

Hello,
I do not own a Bristol but have admired them for many years. I note the references to the aircraft heritage and this has prompted me to recommend a recent book by an Aussie writer. The title is "Charles Kingsford Smith and those magnificent men". Although Kingsford Smith is the focus of the book many other pioneer airmen certainly get more than an honourable mention. There is also plenty of detail on the mechanical and engineering (and sheer good luck) that allowed those early machines to fly.

Peter FitzSimons 2009, Harper and Collins ISBN 978 0 7322 8487 9.

Regards to all,
Kev P

[TLF799R]

Andrew,

It was the previous poster, not me, who used the car salesman tag. So, no
we are still in perfect harmony! LOL

Philippa

[browning l]

Anyone out there able to scan the "CAR" article on Mr. Syd Lovesey, Bristol Patchway, and email it to me?