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27-09-16, 01:33 PM
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AB Rally
I have been looking out for any coverage of the rally held in Connecticut and Vermont. Nothing to see? Maybe there would be more exposure if it wasn't led by a stolen Arnolt-Bristol. Owners should be proud to display what's left of these rare and beautiful cars. Unfortunate that it had to be an underground event due to the shady history of one car.
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27-09-16, 03:22 PM
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27-09-16, 04:12 PM
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As for any detailed coverage on the AB rally, I can only say there really isn't any other than seeing a photo of my dad's stolen car there. I am in the l process now of finishing up a detailed and accurate history of Arnolt-Bristol 404x3038 and our efforts to get it home. This will update the Indy Star article that Cargirl posted a link to last year . I will post that history on this forum and social media in the weeks to come. Thanks for your interest.
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27-09-16, 06:11 PM
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Are you seriously trying to imply that the Arnolt Bristol club would have held a rally in secret just because a car was present at the event which your late father sold years ago to a purchaser who defaulted on a private hire purchase agreement having sold it on.
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27-09-16, 06:52 PM
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I am not sure if your last posting is asking a question or making a statement but either way if the meeting was sponsored by the club or organised by it directly does it make any difference, are you not still implying that it held the rally in secret due to the presence of a car previously owned by your late father.
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27-09-16, 08:22 PM
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Its very sad that your father lost out on the deal when he sold the car, the purchaser selling it and defaulting on the loan agreement. One of the law professors commenting on the matter in the article Cargirl posted the link to suggests that this might have constituted theft at the time but this was disputed by lawyers acting for a subsequent owner and the interpretation they put on the situation is sadly more compelling and it is very doubtful if any court, especially now, would regard this as a stolen car, therefore the current owner almost certainly has good title to it.
I could understand an Auction house being cautious if they were asked to sell it because of your on going action but what I just don't get is why the club if they view the car as so suspect would hold a meeting in secret rather than just tell the owner not to bring it, more to the point if that was the case why did other owners participate in the event. If it was a local event rather than a national meet that might explain the lack of press coverage rather than a cover up.
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27-09-16, 09:15 PM
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Excellent reply, based on the information you have. I have learned so much more on this since the Indy Star article. Theft is theft regardless of the passage of time. We still have the only clear title to 3038. I have NO personal vendetta, if you will, against this current "owner". All we are after is dad's car back home where it belongs. To answer your question at the end, with what I know about this matter I can't understand why anyone would attend his event.
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28-09-16, 06:50 AM
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I gather that your dad agreed that the buyer of the car could pay for it in installments and the buyer made some payments, but not all that were required. Your dad should have pursued the debtor. Had he done so, he would have probably got the rest of his money, but in all likelihood he wouldn't have got the car back, so I don't see how you can argue that it "belongs" back home. You're just saying that because it's now worth a lot of money.
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