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Old 19-11-10, 08:10 PM
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Well Large Member,

When I saw the price that Eric was mentioning I thought I would post it,
but perhaps there was a little exaggeration in his posting.

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Old 19-11-10, 09:04 PM
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When I saw the price that Eric was mentioning....
but perhaps there was a little exaggeration in his postiing
Yes of course .... funny to read that all my post are suspected to be fake
I paid @ BCL £166.85 VAT incl ... note this price was for faulty cylinder head gasket if you remember
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Old 20-11-10, 01:03 PM
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Yes of course .... funny to read that all my post are suspected to be fake
I paid @ BCL £166.85 VAT incl ... note this price was for faulty cylinder head gasket if you remember
If I remember right - the gasket wasn't faulty. It just needed adapting for your engine by drilling another hole. ? They had not informed you about that.

Is that correct ?

It seems that the price BCL charged was competitive but should have had more instructions if an amateur was fitting it. It seems they made the mistake of assuming a professional mechanic would be fitting the gasket and would notice that it needed a slight modification.

Always wrong to assume.

I don't mind tackling most mechanical jobs, but things like head gaskets I leave to the professionals. Mainly because it's such a ball ache to strip down and do again if it goes wrong ! I have done loads on motorcycles because they are easy to get to and deal with.

Got to know your limits.

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Old 20-11-10, 01:43 PM
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If I remember right - the gasket wasn't faulty. It just needed adapting for your engine by drilling another hole. ?
Faulty? Inferior? Incorrect? - just semantics.

The fact is it needed adapting for Bristol engines. Which might be acceptible if it came from Halfords, but it didn't, it apparently came from Bristol, who say on their web site;

"We crave instead integrity of purpose and an unmatched level of engineering perfection."
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it apparently came from Bristol, who say on their web site;
"We crave instead integrity of purpose and an unmatched level of engineering perfection."
In my humble opinion this is a lack of knowledge and a couldn't care less attitude .
It is not normal that a "genial director" sells such faulty goods
Why don't they sell good cylinder head gaskets ?

I have been invited to purchase everything for my Arnolt-Bristol at the factory because of their experience in this particular domain

The argument was "who better than us can give you the best result"
That was enough to give all my confidence
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Old 20-11-10, 01:46 PM
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Why should I agree to buy a faulty cylinder head gasket ?
I ordered and paid it to a company that claim to have 65 years of experience !
Of course I have NOT been informed about the problem
and more serious , they didn't know about this problem .
As previously written , dozens of cars have this gasket installed and I am the only one to complaint ( as always )
In case I had been informed , I would NEVER accept to buy a faulty goods or a goods that needs to be punched for the simple reason that when you touch it , for sure the supplier will make you immediately responsible of the problem and the loss of warranty .

I have never asked for faulty goods or cheap goods when .
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Old 20-11-10, 01:55 PM
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Many apologies Kevin,
Us old gits are sometime a little curmudgeonly and do not realise peoples
sensitivity.
The first thing to go as you get older are your social graces, mine seem to
have left me with that posting.
I love your forum and do contribute when I feel I can help but I only have
knowledge of 11 years with
a 407.
I bought the 407 at a time when I could not walk or drive and it has been a
lifeline to me as have the Bristol Community
on the Forums.
I miss the ascorbic comments of some contributors who no longer appear, at
least under the names they started with, keep up
the good work, the postings make my day every day and I read all of them
avidly.

Thank you again,

Nick, unlike Greg, small member!
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Old 20-11-10, 03:07 PM
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As previously written , dozens of cars have this gasket installed and I am the only one to complaint ( as always )
I wonder how many cars are in fact driving around with this "holeless" gasket and concerned about overheating. Indeed I wonder if I am. Certainly on hot days (>25°C) I start to get a bit concerned when the temp rises to 95°+.
Interestingly the gasket on ebay also has this hole missing and appears to have the same date as Eric's ie 23.5.89 so presumably a common source.
I just wish there was a simple way of checking "hole or no hole"!

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I wonder how many cars are in fact driving around with this "holeless" gasket and concerned about overheating. Indeed I wonder if I am. Certainly on hot days (>25°C) I start to get a bit concerned when the temp rises to 95°+.
Interestingly the gasket on ebay also has this hole missing and appears to have the same date as Eric's ie 23.5.89 so presumably a common source.
I just wish there was a simple way of checking "hole or no hole"!

Regards
Richard
As previously written by someone , it's probably BMW 328 gaskets

In my humble opinion , if engineers decided to add an extra hole circa the 6th cylinder ... I may reasonably think that it's because they had an overheating problem or they wanted to improve the cooling

Everybody is free to accept if whether or not it's important . But I have a tendency to trust in the experience of engineers who decided to make an extra hole

As for me , original gasket is supposed to be as it is in original drawings

Is it normal that no recall has been made ?
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Old 20-11-10, 04:28 PM
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I don't think BCL was selling a defective product. It was a gasket that
worked for BMW and one little hole may make a 10% difference in cooling.
The BIG issue was the lack of a satisfactory answer to the client and by
sayng he was the only one to complain, it was sort of blaming the customer.
I disagree with the comments made that a professional installer would have
seen the difference. Maybe.... maybe not.
What all this has shown us is that there has been some "overselling" by BCL.
They gets their supplies of spares were they can...same as the rest of us.
Therefore shopping with BCL, B May, Spencer Lane Jones, the Australian club
and others may well be all the same.
Claude brought up his hub cap issue...and years later his hub cap is still
"under observation" at BCL or perhaps used as an ashtray! A refund or the
offer of a discount on future purchases would have been a more appropriate
answer.
All a matter of communication.
Cheers,
Dorien
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Old 20-11-10, 07:43 PM
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Greg
Why should I agree to buy a faulty cylinder head gasket ?
I ordered and paid it to a company that claim to have 65 years of experience !
Of course I have NOT been informed about the problem
and more serious , they didn't know about this problem .
As previously written , dozens of cars have this gasket installed and I am the only one to complaint ( as always )
In case I had been informed , I would NEVER accept to buy a faulty goods or a goods that needs to be punched for the simple reason that when you touch it , for sure the supplier will make you immediately responsible of the problem and the loss of warranty .
I have never asked for faulty goods or cheap goods when .
I agree with you -- I hope you were compensated for the inconvenience.

Greg
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Old 20-11-10, 08:35 PM
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Well spotted that man! Of course it was written in German, not german. But
then Ian wrote that.
But we still don't know what Bristol said Eric?
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Old 20-11-10, 09:08 PM
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But we still don't know what Bristol said Eric?
I have well understood that it is completely forbidden to say or write something against de BCL
Why should I write ( or tell you ) what was proposed ?
As I am a complete nutter , my problems are de facto fake !
It's easier to say I am threatening

As I wrote , I have the right to shut up . That's all

In my opinion , I thought that a Bristol forum is a place where it is possible to find advices or accurate information about Bristol Cars
I couldn't imagine that is a place where I will be treated as jihadist

I couldn't imagine that this forum was monitored and that some of the forumers have no openness .
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