Overdrive Unit

[peter dowdle]

Does any one have any knowledge or experience with the American made overdrive unit "Gear Vendors". Its designed to bolt on to the back of the Chrysler auto boxes as fitted to V8 bristols. You remove the extension housing and replace it with the Gear Vendor overdrive unit. This gives you 6 forward gears. The fitting requires a shortening of the tail shaft. Im wondering if there would be room under the Bristol for such an installation.

Regards Peter Dowdle

[sv8predator]

You could do worse than join the Jensen Owners' Club forum, which has a wealth of technical info on the Chryslers V8s, and there have been quite a few discussions on the Gear Vendors unit.

You have to join the forum to get access to the technical areas.

https://www.joc.org.uk/forum/index.php

[Kevin H]

Peter,
The guy who rebuilt my engine looked into this and if I remember correctly he concluded that some fairly significant modifications would be required to use that overdrive unit. This included cutting a chassis crossmember and expanding the width of the tunnel that the prop shaft runs through. Neither of these were something I was prepared to do. Given the narrowness of the Bristol and the proximity of the front seats to the tunnel I doubt it was even feasible.

However, this was circa fifteen years ago and the dimensions of the overdrive unit may have changed since then.

Another option would be to change the whole powertrain as Bristol did with the 411 S6. With hindsight I wish I had done that and just stored the original engine and transmission in case a future owner wanted to restore it to original.

Regards,
Kevin

[Barrie]

The Jensen Forum route suggested below is a good idea.
I investigated Gear Vendors and discarded the idea because the shortened prop shaft would have restricted movement of the rear axle causing handling problems. This MAY not be so severe with a Bristol because of the longer wheelbase compared to my Jensen.
I replaced my CV8's Torqueflite 727 with a later 4 speed with torque converter lock-up 518.
Gears 1 to 3 are roughly as the 727 so you still have the previous performance but at more than 40mph the car drops into 4th then torque converter lock-up giving 38mph per 1000 rpm (3rd gives 27mph). It's very relaxing, quiet and economical. Less wear too. It transformed the car.
I bought the 'box from USA as second hand rebuilt from a reputable source and the cost 7 years ago was £2200 plus shipping. Fitting cost c.£2k and was quite difficult but a 411 will be easier as there's more room. You need to wander around the internet looking at USA where there's a wealth of up to date info on the subject.
Good luck!

[peter dowdle]

I recently collected my car back from my mechanic after having the auto transmission rebuilt which included having the part throttle kick down reactivated.He described the removal and replacement of the transmission as an 11 out of 10 level of difficulty. I asked him about the idea of a Gearvendors overdrive being fitted. His advice, just forget it, there just isnt enough room.

I took the opportunity at this time to have the motor pulled out to fix all the oil leaks, fit a brighter camshaft and electronic ignition. This all added up to a substantial bill but the work has transformed the car . The auto changes beautifully the kick down likewise and the motor starts and runs just as well.

ELCO based in Melbourne did the work,all they do is Chryslers and what they dont know about them isnt worth knowing.

[Kevin H]

Thanks Peter, that's good to know.

Was it Elko who did the work rather than Elco?

Kevin

[peter dowdle]

sorry ELKO 0397616044