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Old 06-01-22, 01:19 AM
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I have ordered a Mallory Comp 70 for the car.. I'll update after I fit it.

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Old 06-01-22, 05:26 PM
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David,
I do not see a pressure regulator on your Mallory which appears to be upside down. The Facet regulator is not their own I think it is a Purolator and could be fitted to increase / decrease your pressure.
Good luck and would like to hear how you get on.

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David,
I do not see a pressure regulator on your Mallory which appears to be upside down. The Facet regulator is not their own I think it is a Purolator and could be fitted to increase / decrease your pressure.
Good luck and would like to hear how you get on.

Nick
LOL - yes, Nick, it WAS upside down. That's the way it was when I got the car and it was noisy, so I re-installed right-side up it after taking that pic. There is an external pressure regulator - it's the smaller canister you see in that picture - but with or without it, that pump is now only giving 2.5PSI and some occasional pulses of more.

David
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. it's only managing 2.5PSI !!!!!
I don’t understand why you would need any more - that’s around the same pressure as is produced by the SU pumps on the later models. What you need is volume, which is not the same as pressure. Bear in mind that the Carter Carb literally just dumps the contents of the float chambers straight into the manifold on kickdown and you’ll see what I mean.

I found the SU double ended pump that I used to replace an extremely noisy Facet to excellent. Quiet in that it was inaudible with the engine running, even at tickover, but just loud enough to give you that reassuring tick tick as you turn the ignition on. Mine did me 20 years and never gave me any trouble at all.
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I don’t understand why you would need any more - that’s around the same pressure as is produced by the SU pumps on the later models. What you need is volume, which is not the same as pressure. Bear in mind that the Carter Carb literally just dumps the contents of the float chambers straight into the manifold on kickdown and you’ll see what I mean.

I found the SU double ended pump that I used to replace an extremely noisy Facet to excellent. Quiet in that it was inaudible with the engine running, even at tickover, but just loud enough to give you that reassuring tick tick as you turn the ignition on. Mine did me 20 years and never gave me any trouble at all.
Thanks for your input and you may well be right, Roger, but I ordered a replacement pump anyway. The one on there should have been putting out 12PSI and 140 USgph. For what it's worth, my carb isn't the Carter - it's a Summit Racing M08600VS. Also, I tested the pump later to empty the tank. The flow from it seemed rather pathetic but I did not measure it except that it took over 5 minutes to fill a 5 US Gallon container so approx. 48 Impgph? That almost certainly would have been adequate but I decide to replace it anyway. The SU pump was tempting but a bit pricey here plus the one I have ordered physically fits the mounts of the one I have removed.

David

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I agree with Roger on all points. As noted in one of my previous posts when my SU stopped working, as a temporary measure I fitted a Facet pump. It did the job but I disliked the noise it produced, despite the insulating and sound proofing I did during its installation.

David W: have you checked the petrol supply pipe to the carburettor which runs along the chassis? The location of the fuel pipe is conveniently situated for it to be trapped by an unsuspecting mechanic when jacking up the car.

Irrespective of what pressure you have in the pump, the flow will be reduced if the pipe has been squashed or deformed.

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I agree with Roger on all points. As noted in one of my previous posts when my SU stopped working, as a temporary measure I fitted a Facet pump. It did the job but I disliked the noise it produced, despite the insulating and sound proofing I did during its installation.

David W: have you checked the petrol supply pipe to the carburettor which runs along the chassis? The location of the fuel pipe is conveniently situated for it to be trapped by an unsuspecting mechanic when jacking up the car.

Irrespective of what pressure you have in the pump, the flow will be reduced if the pipe has been squashed or deformed.

Brian
I have the car on stands at the moment, so I will take the opportunity to inspect the full length of the fuel supply pipe. Thanks.

I really hope to get this car back on its tyres by the end of the week even if I don't do all the little jobs that I had planned while it was on stands. This time of year is best for driving fun here in Florida!

David
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