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16-05-09, 02:58 PM
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16-05-09, 03:20 PM
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David,
It may be worth putting a "wanted" advert in the various Bristol Owners Clubs magazines or bulletins. That's what I did when I bought my 411 S5, which was the only one in Australia at that time, (there are 2 now!). Some people have cars tucked away that they can't be bothered trying to sell, but if someone comes along who is specifically looking for one it may spur them into action. There are plenty of classic cars that change hands without ever being advertised! Kevin
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16-05-09, 04:58 PM
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There is a 412/Beaufighter in LHD for sale in Germany right now for
a very modest 58,000 euros http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/sh...g=&tabNumber=1
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16-05-09, 06:12 PM
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I can speak German so can contact the seller if you wish. Richard
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16-05-09, 08:00 PM
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Hi Peter,
It is best not to bandy chassis numbers round on an open forum but I have the chassis number, if you email me offline I will send it to you. Philippa BOC 412 registrar Quote:
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16-05-09, 11:42 PM
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For example, I was down in Virginia on business, and as usual had rung the Bristol owners to stop by a take photographs for Bob Charlton, the then global BOC registrar. One 409 in particular was in lovely shape and I did my usual data collection of inserting a large-font printout with the Chassis ID No in the windscreen and then taking a few photographs to post off to Bob. I was heading home, about 20 miles north on the freeway when the penny dropped, and I used my car phone to ring the owner to make sure I had not recorded the wrong figure as it was about 1/3rd of what the market was asking in those days. No, he knew what it was worth, but would be delighted to sell it at that price, provided he did not need to advertise. He was wealthy, had gotten good use out of the car, but had no interest in showing the car to prospective buyers. I turned around, wrote him a cheque and said I would fly down a month later to collect the car, asking him have his mechanic assure it would make it back to New England. We kept that car (nicknamed "The Dutchess") a long time, and only sold it in New Zealand because we live on an island and taking road trips was, in those days, more complicated as the first stage was a salt-water wet $160 ferry ride. It was not being used enough to merit owning it any more, especially given the other four classic cars in the garage. At one point, just before I was to move to RHD New Zealand, I found that the following LHD cars were on the market in the USA: 401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409... and I already owned a LHD 410 and 405, meaning that for under $100,000 I could own almost the complete LHD collection. Instead I sold my two LHD cars and am now down to one RHD 411 that I can't get through NZ regulations without an awful lot of wasted money. So, if you really want a LHD Bristol, pick up the BOC directory and do some telephoning. It is not unlikely your future car is parked in a garage somewhere and if you don't sound too desperate, the vendor may be delighted to move it on. I would begin by tracking down the 410 in Tulsa OK. Jerry Johnson's Rolling Art is listed on the internet, and he may still have the car for sale. If he does, get a quote on buying it fully restored by his company, as I gather he is in the business. Alternatively, if you have the funds and want to try something very creative, see if the 405 LHD Monnereau car is still for sale in Paris, and ask Toby Silverton for a quote to refurbish it and install a V8 power-train. Good luck, Claude
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17-05-09, 12:01 AM
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My car has all the same features you mention. The two down pipes join into the single exhaust , in my case, with a catalytic converter.
The guages and switches are identical. There was a rumor that the Beaufighter was made out of unsold 412USA's however I think this is unlikely given that Bristol probably built to order rather than build an enormous stock. However I do have drawings for the 412USA that would suggest preparations for a production run. The chassis number on my car is into the Beaufighter range and if the info is correct on this car, sold in 1984, is after the initial Beaufighter registrations. Also Early Beaufighters have the flat dash. My car was built in the fall of 1979 and has the same dash configuration as this car. The plot thickens! Peter>
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17-05-09, 02:50 PM
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David,
Did you consider the LHD 409 coming up in Bonham's auction at The Greenwich Concours on 7 Jun: http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/wspd_...aleSectionNo=2 It looks nicely restored but description states that it needs re- commissioning after storage. Paul
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18-05-09, 11:06 AM
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Is it the 412 USA located in Switzerland according to the Club website car description? I have never heard of a Beaufighter with the targa top. Nor a 412s2 with single exhaust system ... or the quad lights etc. £51k is eye wateringly optimistic particularly when a really good Beaufighter went for £12500 at auction (in Oxford) a couple of months ago. I wonder who bought it and when we will see it again. Peter
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18-05-09, 02:50 PM
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Peter,
The 412USA resides, in my drive-in climate controlled basement, in Canada. The description on the web site is somewhat confusing. I think the swiss car in the web text is probably the car currently for sale on the German site which shares many of the features of the 412USA, but perhaps without the emisssion controls etc. The price would obvoiusly depend on condition. Superficially, this car looks to be in very good condition with quite low milage and perhaps as the only other LHD model, it is quite rare. Peter McGough
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