Window Winder Motor Removal

[peter dowdle]

Looking for some advice on removing the window winder motor on my 412.

Does anyone have any advice on how this is to be done. Do I have to remove the motor and window or will the motor come out on its own?

Also does anyone know what other cars may the motor have been fitted to ?

Thank you Peter Dowdle

N.B. my guess is the 411 would be the same.

[mgdmurray]

Hi Peter
I have been working on my drivers window for days!
I have been trying to lubricate the channels and all the moving parts to minimise friction, etc. No success!!
I have found out that if you remove the black support plate within the door cavity you should be able to remove the whole motor and levers through the door aperture.
I am looking to replace the seals around the door in order to solve my problems. I wish you well.
Mike

[Claude]

Hi Peter,

I do not know how to remove the power window winder, but when I bought my 410 decades ago, it came with the original motors having been removed and replaced (probably with something American as I bought the car in Oregon).

While the car is long gone, the motors, including a manual winder came with the container in 1997 and is still here. Click to zoom the photo (which is the front and the back... for two front windows.

Window-Motor.jpg

Not sure if these photos are helpful to see how they were held in, but it looks primitive enough to just be some bolts and nuts.

Also, if anyone is interested in buying them, make me an offer.

Claude

[mgdmurray]

Hi Peter
Thanks for your reply and information.
I don't think I require your winder mechanisms on this occasion. Thanks again.

Regards
Mike

[Sam410]

Claude, those are Piper window winders and are different to the later 411/412 systems. My 410 also has factory fitted electric windows like these. They are fast and powerful, but the microswitches can be unreliable when their cast alloy bodies tend to crumble and fail. One of yours is missing the microswitches which may be why the mechanisms were swapped for the US ones. The manual winder has been very useful to me - not to wind it all the way up but just a few mm is enough to then have it work electrically.

[peter dowdle]

I have managed to get the wiper motor out without removing the glass.The motor is out of early Jaguar xj6 Mk 1 and 2 and are left and right handed. I found many of these available in the UK for very little money second hand but managed to find a S/H one in Australia.Before buying it I pulled the old motor apart to find it in excelent condition but with one brush carboned up . A good cleanup and my motor is fine.Now all I have to do is reasemble the whole thing.
I will let you know in a later post how I got it apart and re asembled it.

Peter Dowdle