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Article Found by Accident from late 2007
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Article Found by Accident from late 2007
There is also a brief review of the Fighter on page 42 of this
weekend's Financial Times Magazine (23/24 August). Interesting blend of the old Bristol mystique about the company with a [slightly] more direct attempt to market the company. George |
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Article Found by Accident from late 2007
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1d3e77d6-6...nclick_check=1 and the text: Flight of fancy By John Griffiths Published: August 23 2008 01:27 | Last updated: August 23 2008 01:27 The factory is reached through a labyrinth of nondescript streets in a corner of Filton, on the outskirts of Bristol. A sign proclaiming "Bristol Cars" stands alongside gates of solid, blue-painted steel. Beyond them lies the production site of a car maker that is without doubt the industry's most mysterious. I have no idea what goes on behind those gates; nor, so far as I am aware, has any other journalist. We have been barred from Bristol's factory from the beginning. On this occasion, however, one gate has been left ajar. Peeking through, I can see two workshop buildings, each maybe 100ft long, two-dozen parked cars - everyday ones, presumably belonging to employees - and a couple of truck trailers with blue curtains hiding their wares. There is an air of 1960s industrial Britain. The architectural elan of the headquarters of other "supercar" makers is entirely absent. Even the public face of Bristol Cars is low-key: a small showroom in London's West Kensington. The company sells directly to customers; there are no dealers. No, says Richard Hackett, Bristol's de facto marketing chief, not even the FT can go inside the sanctum. When pressed, he cites confidential defence contracts linked to Bristol Cars' origins as an offshoot of the Bristol Aeroplane Company. I should perhaps count myself lucky that Bristol has allowed me to drive one of its products at all. Anthony Crook, who owned the company until his retirement last year, refused journalists test drives, and not much has changed since his longtime associate, Toby Silverton, bought the company from him. As far as I am aware, Steve Cropley, the editor-in-chief of Autocar, is the only other journalist to have driven the Fighter - and only by borrowing one from a customer. By the end of the test drive - shunning the M4 motorway and traversing instead such picturesque towns and villages as Marlborough and quaint Castle Combe along the old A4 trunk road - I find the Fighter as enigmatic as the company. It is a car (with a price that ranges from £234,984 to £351,912 before options) in respect of which all conventional yardsticks of value must be set aside. The details A "supercar" like no other from Britain's most eccentric car company How much: £295,395 How fast: Top speed 210mph (claimed), 0-60, 4 secs (estimated) How thirsty: No data How green: No CO2 data Also consider: Bristol aficionados will consider nothing else The Fighter was announced in 1999, with initial deliveries scheduled for 2001. But not until 2003 did Bristol show even a rolling chassis. Since then, Fighters have obviously been delivered to customers, as Cropley's drive proved, but how many is unclear. Bristol said it would build 20 Fighters a year. Surprisingly, given that FT readers are more likely than most to be able to afford one, the test Fighter is a 2005-registered model with substantial mileage. Some might pay out what is an almighty sum for the Fighter's hand-crafted aluminium body alone. That its curves and precision of fit are the work of human hands, not computer-controlled machinery, is something to marvel at. Only the upward-opening gull-wing doors and the tailgate are made of carbon fibre. The Fighter's design is like that of no other car. Its shape is unique, crafted to go very fast but eschewing all the conventions of current supercars. It is taller and narrower than rivals. It bears some resemblance to a land-bound aircraft, which is no accident: Silverton puts great stress on Bristol's use of aerospace principles to create its low-drag designs. The claimed drag coefficient of 0.255 for the highest-specified Fighter T model is industry-leading. The aerospace theme is echoed in the interior, with some instruments mounted in the roof. There is an extraordinary amount of room in the "cockpit". You also cannot help but love the clear glass section of the lower tailgate, providing rearward visibility a tail gunner would appreciate. The interior is beautifully trimmed in Wilton and the leather bucket seats will take their occupants across continents in comfort. The tight turning circle would do credit to some taxis. And yet there is a feeling of the unfinished about the Bristol. There is a delightful (but £1,751 optional) engine-turned surface available for the flat metal dashboard, centre console and roof panel. But the panels are fastened by visible Allen screws and the dashboard appears covered with a lacquer that makes it seem slightly aged. The electric seat adjusters are in plain aluminium panels I could replicate in my workshop. Control knobs are hand-turned from aluminium, and look it. Maybe such an idiosyncratic approach is treasured by Bristol owners as part of the mystique, but it is well removed from the luxurious opulence of the similarly priced Rolls-Royce Phantom Coupe or the £137,500 Bentley Continental GT Speed. The Bristol's ride, despite sophisticated double wishbone suspension all round, still feels under-developed. Consider, also, the Chrysler-based drivetrains and some may struggle to see such high value in the car. But Bristol is in its 63rd year and presumably has a loyal following. Even the "standard" Fighter, with its 525bhp and relatively lightweight 1,500kg, goes hard - Bristol claims 210mph. The £295,395 Fighter "S", with a claimed 628bhp, goes harder yet. Quite what is to be made of the new twin-turbocharged, £351,912 Fighter T, with a claimed 1,021bhp, must await a serious test. Bristol claims a potential top speed of over 270 miles per hour but to have limited it to 225mph as being "more than sufficient". An appropriate response is, perhaps: "Prove it." More columns at www.ft.com/testdrive |
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Article Found by Accident from late 2007
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I would like to introduce myself as a new member of the forum. I would like to extend my thanks to member 'geo' for sharing the FT article.
Personally speaking, I cannot help but huff and puff at John Griffiths comments on the Fighter feeling 'unfinished'. His review reminded me of Evo Magazine's lukewarm reception of the Fighter a few years ago. Why does the correspondent feel compelled to comment negatively on Allen screws and aluminium knobs? The potential buyer can decide whether these are a pleasing sight or not. With regard to ride and handling; this is dictated by the owner's preference, is it not? That is one of the USPs of a Bristol, that is does not feel generic and can be tailored like no other car. I cannot understand why that was not made the focus of the review; surely if those who read the FT can afford a Fighter and many other of the finest things in life, they would relish ownership of such a personalised car? And what purpose is there in comparing the Fighter to the Rolls-Royce Phantom and Bentley Continental GT, whether either be a saloon or coupe? The character of those machines is a complete contrast to that of the Bristol. The German cars are of a more generic nature; the Bentley was developed from a Volkswagen limousine for instance (hence the pricetag, about which the motoring journalists made great, positive fuss). If one does not like the ride quality of their Continental, I ask; what can the owner actually do about it? The Fighter owner only needs to make a phone call to the workshops with a request to retune the suspension. I am a young man and I spent too many years absorbing the opinions of motoring journalists of the glossy car magazines, whose credentials were, I now retrospectively suspect, rather suspect! Last edited by Blenheim Boy; 03-09-09 at 06:25 PM. |
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Article Found by Accident from late 2007
Good observation Blenheim Boy, I think you either get Bristol, or
you don't. Sadly I don't own one, but I have been in a couple and one thing that does stand out in the Fighter cockpit is the feel of the criticised aluminium knobs, they are precision made, cool to the touch, and have a lovely silky positive click to them that you get with expensive HiFi units. I love them, my wife thinks they are cooker knobs, which is why she is not allowed any say whatever in the matter of potential car acquisition in our house. I did read somewhere that the Fighter switches are £60 a pop and are from an aircraft source. Like all Bristols the Fighter has a huge number of tuneable parameters and is built for the owner who is the only person whose opinion actually matters. It is a fact that mass car production nowadays is a very high precision, high build quality exercise where very high production numbers allow manufactures to spend, for example, £100k per door seal set design. however you end up with a single flavour appliance in a nice jacket. When you buy a handbuilt anything there is a trade off between exclusivity, development, execution, performance and price. If you double the volume you can double the development cost but you lose the exclusivity. You could always follow the Bugatti business model and spend five million pounds (yes that is correct!) per car and sell them for under a million. Personally I think Bristol have the balance about right. For my own more modest 412, Toby Silverton took me out in the the car when the rebuild was complete and discussed the various suspension setting options and their effects and then had all the changes done and tested (while I waited). I suppose that is what building an individual is about and why a handbuilt car cannot ever be compared with a production car which is merely one amongst thousands. Paul |